In this podcast episode, we speak with Harald Lesch. He begins by exploring what makes Earth so special in the cosmic context and what this means for how we relate to our planet. He then discusses the responsibility of the wealthiest to support those less privileged, especially considering the greater accountability that industrialized nations bear in addressing climate challenges. 

Lesch invites us to engage in an evolution toward a more planetary feeling and perspective. He reflects on the tension between progress and regression particularly in light of ongoing investments in fossil fuels, even as renewable energy continues to grow rapidly. He offers concrete examples from regions in Germany and California to illustrate these dynamics. 

Throughout the conversation, he emphasizes how both the economy and energy systems are powerful forces shaping decision-making. He also highlights the importance of storytelling, not only to communicate the impacts of climate change, such as its effects on human health, but also to share successful, collaborative solutions. Finally, he advocates for an interdisciplinary approach to education as a key to creating meaningful change. 

1. As both a scientist and a natural philosopher, what makes our planet so unique in your eyes? 
2. How would you describe the current state of human consciousness regarding our interconnection with all life? 
3. For someone unfamiliar with climate science, how would you explain the greenhouse effect and its impact on daily life? 
4. You’ve been communicating about ecological stress and systemic solutions for years. What have you learned from this experience; do you have any tips on how to better communicate about this? 
5. What promising technological or systemic solutions do you see for addressing the climate crisis, such as renewable energy?  
6. You often emphasize the urgency of systemic change. What role do you see for education, especially ethical and scientific education, in shaping the transition? 
7. In your book If Not Now, When Then?, you invited readers to act according to the Earth Charter’s 16 principles. How do you see the Earth Charter helping bridge the gap between science and moral responsibility? 
8. What are your hopes for COP30? And what, in your view, must truly happen or change to make these global summits more effective?